diff --git a/Cabal-hooks.cabal b/Cabal-hooks.cabal
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+cabal-version: 2.2
+name:          Cabal-hooks
+version:       3.14
+copyright:     2023, Cabal Development Team
+license:       BSD-3-Clause
+license-file:  LICENSE
+author:        Cabal Development Team <cabal-devel@haskell.org>
+maintainer:    cabal-devel@haskell.org
+homepage:      http://www.haskell.org/cabal/
+bug-reports:   https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues
+synopsis:      API for the Hooks build-type
+description:
+  User-facing API for the Hooks build-type.
+category:       Distribution
+build-type:     Simple
+
+extra-source-files:
+  readme.md changelog.md
+
+source-repository head
+  type:     git
+  location: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/
+  subdir:   Cabal-hooks
+
+library
+  default-language: Haskell2010
+  hs-source-dirs: src
+
+  build-depends:
+    Cabal-syntax    >= 3.14      && < 3.15,
+    Cabal           >= 3.14      && < 3.15,
+    base            >= 4.13      && < 5,
+    containers      >= 0.5.0.0   && < 0.8,
+    transformers    >= 0.5.6.0   && < 0.7
+
+  ghc-options: -Wall -fno-ignore-asserts -fwarn-tabs -fwarn-incomplete-uni-patterns -fwarn-incomplete-record-updates
+
+  exposed-modules:
+    Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks
+
+  other-extensions:
+    BangPatterns
+    CPP
+    DefaultSignatures
+    DeriveDataTypeable
+    DeriveFoldable
+    DeriveFunctor
+    DeriveGeneric
+    DeriveTraversable
+    ExistentialQuantification
+    FlexibleContexts
+    FlexibleInstances
+    GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving
+    ImplicitParams
+    KindSignatures
+    LambdaCase
+    NondecreasingIndentation
+    OverloadedStrings
+    PatternSynonyms
+    RankNTypes
+    RecordWildCards
+    ScopedTypeVariables
+    StandaloneDeriving
+    Trustworthy
+    TypeFamilies
+    TypeOperators
+    TypeSynonymInstances
+    UndecidableInstances
diff --git a/LICENSE b/LICENSE
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+Copyright (c) 2003-2023, Cabal Development Team.
+See the AUTHORS file for the full list of copyright holders.
+
+See */LICENSE for the copyright holders of the subcomponents.
+
+All rights reserved.
+
+Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
+modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
+met:
+
+    * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
+      notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
+
+    * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above
+      copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following
+      disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided
+      with the distribution.
+
+    * Neither the name of Isaac Jones nor the names of other
+      contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived
+      from this software without specific prior written permission.
+
+THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS
+"AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
+LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR
+A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT
+OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL,
+SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT
+LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE,
+DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY
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+(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE
+OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
diff --git a/Setup.hs b/Setup.hs
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+import Distribution.Simple
+
+main :: IO ()
+main = defaultMain
diff --git a/changelog.md b/changelog.md
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+# Changelog for `Cabal-hooks`
+
+## 3.14 – November 2024
+
+  * Initial release of the `Hooks` API.
+
diff --git a/readme.md b/readme.md
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+# `Cabal-hooks`
+
+This library provides an API for the `Cabal` `Hooks` build type.
+
+## What is the `Hooks` build type?
+
+The `Hooks` build type is a new `Cabal` build type that is scheduled to
+replace the `Custom` build type, providing better integration with
+the rest of the Haskell ecosystem.
+
+The original specification for the `Hooks` build type can be found in
+the associated [Haskell Foundation Tech Proposal](https://github.com/haskellfoundation/tech-proposals/pull/60).
+
+These *setup hooks* allow package authors to customise the configuration and
+building of a package by providing certain hooks that get folded into the
+general package configuration and building logic within `Cabal`.
+
+## Defining a package with custom hooks
+
+To use the `Hooks` build type, you will need to
+
+  * Update your `.cabal` file by:
+
+      - using `cabal-version >= 3.14`,
+      - declaring `build-type: Hooks`,
+      - declaring a `custom-setup` stanza, with a `setup-depends`
+        field which includes a dependency on `Cabal-hooks`.
+  
+  * Define a Haskell module `SetupHooks`, which must be placed
+    at the root of your project and must define a value
+    `setupHooks :: SetupHooks`.
+
+That is, your `.cabal` file should contain the following
+
+```cabal
+-- my-package.cabal
+cabal-version: 3.14
+name: my-package
+build-type: Hooks
+
+custom-setup
+  setup-depends:
+    Cabal-hooks >= 0.1 && < 0.2
+```
+
+and your `SetupHooks.hs` file should look like:
+
+```haskell
+-- SetupHooks.hs
+module SetupHooks ( setupHooks ) where
+
+-- Cabal-hooks
+import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks
+
+setupHooks :: SetupHooks
+setupHooks = ...
+  -- use the API provided by 'Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks'
+  -- to define the hooks relevant to your package
+```
+
+## Using the API
+
+The [Haddock documentation](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Cabal-hooks)
+should help you get started using this library's API.
diff --git a/src/Distribution/Simple/SetupHooks.hs b/src/Distribution/Simple/SetupHooks.hs
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+{-# LANGUAGE BangPatterns #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE CPP #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE DerivingStrategies #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE DuplicateRecordFields #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE RankNTypes #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE RecursiveDo #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE StaticPointers #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE TupleSections #-}
+{-# LANGUAGE OverloadedStrings #-}
+
+{-|
+Module: Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks
+Description: Interface for the @Hooks@ @build-type@.
+
+This module defines the interface for the @Hooks@ @build-type@.
+
+To write a package that implements @build-type: Hooks@, you should define
+a module @SetupHooks.hs@ which exports a value @setupHooks :: 'SetupHooks'@.
+This is a record that declares actions that should be hooked into the
+cabal build process.
+
+See 'SetupHooks' for more details.
+-}
+module Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks
+  ( -- * Hooks
+
+    -- $setupHooks
+    SetupHooks(..)
+  , noSetupHooks
+
+     -- * Configure hooks
+
+     -- $configureHooks
+  , ConfigureHooks(..)
+  , noConfigureHooks
+    -- ** Per-package configure hooks
+  , PreConfPackageInputs(..)
+  , PreConfPackageOutputs(..) -- See Note [Not hiding SetupHooks constructors]
+  , noPreConfPackageOutputs
+  , PreConfPackageHook
+  , PostConfPackageInputs(..)
+  , PostConfPackageHook
+    -- ** Per-component configure hooks
+  , PreConfComponentInputs(..)
+  , PreConfComponentOutputs(..) -- See Note [Not hiding SetupHooks constructors]
+  , noPreConfComponentOutputs
+  , PreConfComponentHook
+  , ComponentDiff(..), emptyComponentDiff, buildInfoComponentDiff
+  , LibraryDiff, ForeignLibDiff, ExecutableDiff
+  , TestSuiteDiff, BenchmarkDiff
+  , BuildInfoDiff
+
+    -- * Build hooks
+
+  , BuildHooks(..), noBuildHooks
+  , BuildingWhat(..), buildingWhatVerbosity, buildingWhatDistPref
+
+    -- ** Pre-build rules
+
+    -- $preBuildRules
+  , PreBuildComponentInputs(..)
+  , PreBuildComponentRules
+
+    -- ** Post-build hooks
+  , PostBuildComponentInputs(..)
+  , PostBuildComponentHook
+
+    -- ** Rules
+  , Rules
+  , rules
+  , noRules
+  , Rule
+  , Dependency (..)
+  , RuleOutput (..)
+  , RuleId
+  , staticRule, dynamicRule
+    -- *** Rule inputs/outputs
+
+    -- $rulesDemand
+  , Location(..)
+  , location
+  , autogenComponentModulesDir
+  , componentBuildDir
+
+    -- *** Actions
+  , RuleCommands(..)
+  , Command
+  , mkCommand
+  , Dict(..)
+
+    -- *** Rules API
+
+    -- $rulesAPI
+  , RulesM
+  , registerRule
+  , registerRule_
+
+  -- **** File/directory monitoring
+  , addRuleMonitors
+  , module Distribution.Simple.FileMonitor.Types
+
+    -- * Install hooks
+  , InstallHooks(..), noInstallHooks
+  , InstallComponentInputs(..), InstallComponentHook
+
+    -- * Re-exports
+
+    -- ** Hooks
+    -- *** Configure hooks
+  , ConfigFlags(..)
+    -- *** Build hooks
+  , BuildFlags(..), ReplFlags(..), HaddockFlags(..), HscolourFlags(..)
+    -- *** Install hooks
+  , CopyFlags(..)
+
+    -- ** @Hooks@ API
+    --
+    -- | These are functions provided as part of the @Hooks@ API.
+    -- It is recommended to import them from this module as opposed to
+    -- manually importing them from inside the Cabal module hierarchy.
+
+    -- *** Copy/install functions
+  , installFileGlob
+
+    -- *** Interacting with the program database
+  , Program(..), ConfiguredProgram(..), ProgArg
+  , ProgramLocation(..)
+  , ProgramDb
+  , addKnownPrograms
+  , configureUnconfiguredProgram
+  , simpleProgram
+
+    -- ** General @Cabal@ datatypes
+  , Verbosity, Compiler(..), Platform(..), Suffix(..)
+
+    -- *** Package information
+  , LocalBuildConfig, LocalBuildInfo, PackageBuildDescr
+      -- NB: we can't simply re-export all the fields of LocalBuildConfig etc,
+      -- due to the presence of duplicate record fields.
+      -- Ideally, we'd like to e.g. re-export LocalBuildConfig qualified,
+      -- but qualified re-exports aren't a thing currently.
+
+  , PackageDescription(..)
+
+    -- *** Component information
+  , Component(..), ComponentName(..), componentName
+  , BuildInfo(..), emptyBuildInfo
+  , TargetInfo(..), ComponentLocalBuildInfo(..)
+
+    -- **** Components
+  , Library(..), ForeignLib(..), Executable(..)
+  , TestSuite(..), Benchmark(..)
+  , LibraryName(..)
+  , emptyLibrary, emptyForeignLib, emptyExecutable
+  , emptyTestSuite, emptyBenchmark
+
+  )
+where
+import Distribution.PackageDescription
+  ( PackageDescription(..)
+  , Library(..), ForeignLib(..)
+  , Executable(..), TestSuite(..), Benchmark(..)
+  , emptyLibrary, emptyForeignLib
+  , emptyExecutable, emptyBenchmark, emptyTestSuite
+  , BuildInfo(..), emptyBuildInfo
+  , ComponentName(..), LibraryName(..)
+  )
+import Distribution.Simple.BuildPaths
+  ( autogenComponentModulesDir )
+import Distribution.Simple.Compiler
+  ( Compiler(..) )
+import Distribution.Simple.Errors
+  ( CabalException(SetupHooksException) )
+import Distribution.Simple.FileMonitor.Types
+import Distribution.Simple.Install
+  ( installFileGlob )
+import Distribution.Simple.LocalBuildInfo
+  ( componentBuildDir )
+import Distribution.Simple.PreProcess.Types
+  ( Suffix(..) )
+import Distribution.Simple.Program.Db
+  ( ProgramDb, addKnownPrograms
+  , configureUnconfiguredProgram
+  )
+import Distribution.Simple.Program.Find
+  ( simpleProgram )
+import Distribution.Simple.Program.Types
+  ( Program(..), ConfiguredProgram(..)
+  , ProgArg
+  , ProgramLocation(..)
+  )
+import Distribution.Simple.Setup
+  ( BuildFlags(..)
+  , ConfigFlags(..)
+  , CopyFlags(..)
+  , HaddockFlags(..)
+  , HscolourFlags(..)
+  , ReplFlags(..)
+  )
+import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks.Errors
+import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks.Internal
+import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks.Rule as Rule
+import Distribution.Simple.Utils
+  ( dieWithException )
+import Distribution.System
+  ( Platform(..) )
+import Distribution.Types.Component
+  ( Component(..), componentName )
+import Distribution.Types.ComponentLocalBuildInfo
+  ( ComponentLocalBuildInfo(..) )
+import Distribution.Types.LocalBuildInfo
+  ( LocalBuildInfo(..) )
+import Distribution.Types.LocalBuildConfig
+  ( LocalBuildConfig, PackageBuildDescr )
+import Distribution.Types.TargetInfo
+  ( TargetInfo(..) )
+import Distribution.Utils.ShortText
+  ( ShortText )
+import Distribution.Verbosity
+  ( Verbosity )
+
+import Control.Monad
+  ( void )
+import Control.Monad.IO.Class
+  ( MonadIO(liftIO) )
+import Control.Monad.Trans.Class
+  ( lift )
+import qualified Control.Monad.Trans.Reader as Reader
+import qualified Control.Monad.Trans.State as State
+#if MIN_VERSION_transformers(0,5,6)
+import qualified Control.Monad.Trans.Writer.CPS as Writer
+#else
+import qualified Control.Monad.Trans.Writer.Strict as Writer
+#endif
+import Data.Foldable
+  ( for_ )
+import Data.Map.Strict as Map
+  ( insertLookupWithKey )
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+-- Haddocks for the SetupHooks API
+
+{- $setupHooks
+A Cabal package with @Hooks@ @build-type@ must define the Haskell module
+@SetupHooks@ which defines a value @setupHooks :: 'SetupHooks'@.
+
+These *setup hooks* allow package authors to customise the configuration and
+building of a package by providing certain hooks that get folded into the
+general package configuration and building logic within @Cabal@.
+
+This mechanism replaces the @Custom@ @build-type@, providing better
+integration with the rest of the Haskell ecosystem.
+
+Usage example:
+
+> -- In your .cabal file
+> build-type: Hooks
+>
+> custom-setup
+>   setup-depends:
+>     base        >= 4.18 && < 5,
+>     Cabal-hooks >= 3.14 && < 3.15
+>
+> The declared Cabal version should also be at least 3.14.
+
+> -- In SetupHooks.hs, next to your .cabal file
+> module SetupHooks where
+> import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks ( SetupHooks, noSetupHooks )
+>
+> setupHooks :: SetupHooks
+> setupHooks =
+>  noSetupHooks
+>    { configureHooks = myConfigureHooks
+>    , buildHooks = myBuildHooks }
+
+Note that 'SetupHooks' can be monoidally combined, e.g.:
+
+> module SetupHooks where
+> import Distribution.Simple.SetupHooks
+> import qualified SomeOtherLibrary ( setupHooks )
+>
+> setupHooks :: SetupHooks
+> setupHooks = SomeOtherLibrary.setupHooks <> mySetupHooks
+>
+> mySetupHooks :: SetupHooks
+> mySetupHooks = ...
+-}
+
+{- $configureHooks
+Configure hooks can be used to augment the Cabal configure logic with
+package-specific logic. The main principle is that the configure hooks can
+feed into updating the 'PackageDescription' of a @cabal@ package. From then on,
+this package configuration is set in stone, and later hooks (e.g. hooks into
+the build phase) can no longer modify this configuration; instead they will
+receive this configuration in their inputs, and must honour it.
+
+Configuration happens at two levels:
+
+  * global configuration covers the entire package,
+  * local configuration covers a single component.
+
+Once the global package configuration is done, all hooks work on a
+per-component level. The configuration hooks thus follow a simple philosophy:
+
+  * All modifications to global package options must use `preConfPackageHook`.
+  * All modifications to component configuration options must use `preConfComponentHook`.
+
+For example, to generate modules inside a given component, you should:
+
+  * In the per-component configure hook, declare the modules you are going to
+    generate by adding them to the `autogenModules` field for that component
+    (unless you know them ahead of time, in which case they can be listed
+    textually in the @.cabal@ file of the project).
+  * In the build hooks, describe the actions that will generate these modules.
+-}
+
+{- $preBuildRules
+Pre-build hooks are specified as a collection of pre-build 'Rules'.
+Each t'Rule' consists of:
+
+  - a specification of its static dependencies and outputs,
+  - the commands that execute the rule.
+
+Rules are constructed using either one of the 'staticRule' or 'dynamicRule'
+smart constructors. Directly constructing a t'Rule' using the constructors of
+that data type is not advised, as this relies on internal implementation details
+which are subject to change in between versions of the `Cabal-hooks` library.
+
+Note that:
+
+  - To declare the dependency on the output of a rule, one must refer to the
+    rule directly, and not to the path to the output executing that rule will
+    eventually produce.
+    To do so, registering a t'Rule' with the API returns a unique identifier
+    for that rule, in the form of a t'RuleId'.
+  - File dependencies and outputs are not specified directly by
+    'FilePath', but rather use the 'Location' type (which is more convenient
+    when working with preprocessors).
+  - Rules refer to the actions that execute them using static pointers, in order
+    to enable serialisation/deserialisation of rules.
+  - Rules can additionally monitor files or directories, which determines
+    when to re-compute the entire set of rules.
+-}
+
+{- $rulesDemand
+Rules can declare various kinds of dependencies:
+
+  - 'staticDependencies': files or other rules that a rule statically depends on,
+  - extra dynamic dependencies, using the 'DynamicRuleCommands' constructor,
+  - 'MonitorFilePath': additional files and directories to monitor.
+
+Rules are considered __out-of-date__ precisely when any of the following
+conditions apply:
+
+  [O1] there has been a (relevant) change in the files and directories
+       monitored by the rules,
+  [O2] the environment passed to the computation of rules has changed.
+
+If the rules are out-of-date, the build system is expected to re-run the
+computation that computes all rules.
+
+After this re-computation of the set of all rules, we match up new rules
+with old rules, by 'RuleId'. A rule is then considered __stale__ if any of
+following conditions apply:
+
+  [N] the rule is new, or
+  [S] the rule matches with an old rule, and either:
+
+    [S1] a file dependency of the rule has been modified/created/deleted, or
+         a (transitive) rule dependency of the rule is itself stale, or
+    [S2] the rule is different from the old rule, e.g. the argument stored in
+         the rule command has changed, or the pointer to the action to run the
+         rule has changed. (This is determined using the @Eq Rule@ instance.)
+
+A stale rule becomes no longer stale once we run its associated action. The
+build system is responsible for re-running the actions associated with
+each stale rule, in dependency order. This means the build system is expected
+to behave as follows:
+
+  1. Any time the rules are out-of-date, query the rules to obtain
+     up-to-date rules.
+  2. Re-run stale rules.
+-}
+
+{- $rulesAPI
+Defining pre-build rules can be done in the following style:
+
+> {-# LANGUAGE BlockArguments, StaticPointers #-}
+> myPreBuildRules :: PreBuildComponentRules
+> myPreBuildRules = rules (static ()) $ \ preBuildEnvironment -> do
+>   let cmd1 = mkCommand (static Dict) $ static \ arg -> do { .. }
+>       cmd2 = mkCommand (static Dict) $ static \ arg -> do { .. }
+>   myData <- liftIO someIOAction
+>   addRuleMonitors [ monitorDirectory "someSearchDir" ]
+>   registerRule_ "rule_1_1" $ staticRule (cmd1 arg1) deps1 outs1
+>   registerRule_ "rule_1_2" $ staticRule (cmd1 arg2) deps2 outs2
+>   registerRule_ "rule_1_3" $ staticRule (cmd1 arg3) deps3 outs3
+>   registerRule_ "rule_2_4" $ staticRule (cmd2 arg4) deps4 outs4
+
+Here we use the 'rules', 'staticRule' and 'mkCommand' smart constructors,
+rather than directly using the v'Rules', v'Rule' and v'Command' constructors,
+which insulates us from internal changes to the t'Rules', t'Rule' and t'Command'
+datatypes, respectively.
+
+We use 'addRuleMonitors' to declare a monitored directory that the collection
+of rules as a whole depends on. In this case, we declare that they depend on the
+contents of the "searchDir" directory. This means that the rules will be
+computed anew whenever the contents of this directory change.
+-}
+
+{- Note [Not hiding SetupHooks constructors]
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+We would like to hide as many datatype constructors from the API as possible
+and provide smart constructors instead, so that hook authors don't end up
+depending on internal implementation details that are subject to change.
+
+However, doing so significantly degrades the Haddock documentation. So we
+instead opt for exposing the constructor, but suggesting users use the
+corresponding smart constructor instead.
+-}
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+-- API functions
+
+-- | Register a rule. Returns an identifier for that rule.
+registerRule
+  :: ShortText -- ^ user-given rule name;
+               -- these should be unique on a per-package level
+  -> Rule      -- ^ the rule to register
+  -> RulesM RuleId
+registerRule nm !newRule = RulesT $ do
+  RulesEnv { rulesEnvNameSpace = ns
+           , rulesEnvVerbosity = verbosity } <- Reader.ask
+  oldRules <- lift $ State.get
+  let rId = RuleId { ruleNameSpace = ns, ruleName = nm }
+      (mbDup, newRules) = Map.insertLookupWithKey (\ _ new _old -> new) rId newRule oldRules
+  for_ mbDup $ \ oldRule ->
+    liftIO $ dieWithException verbosity
+           $ SetupHooksException
+           $ RulesException
+           $ DuplicateRuleId rId oldRule newRule
+  lift $ State.put newRules
+  return rId
+
+-- | Register a rule, discarding the produced 'RuleId'.
+--
+-- Using this function means that you don't expect any other rules to ever
+-- depend on any outputs of this rule. Use 'registerRule' to retain the
+-- 'RuleId' instead.
+registerRule_
+  :: ShortText -- ^ user-given rule name;
+               -- these should be unique on a per-package level
+  -> Rule      -- ^ the rule to register
+  -> RulesT IO ()
+registerRule_ i r = void $ registerRule i r
+
+-- | Declare additional monitored objects for the collection of all rules.
+--
+-- When these monitored objects change, the rules are re-computed.
+addRuleMonitors :: Monad m => [MonitorFilePath] -> RulesT m ()
+addRuleMonitors = RulesT . lift . lift . Writer.tell
+{-# INLINEABLE addRuleMonitors #-}
+
+-- TODO: add API functions that search and declare the appropriate monitoring
+-- at the same time.
